:Some things that, imho, should be done - categories and templates. Placing a [[:Category:Orthodoxy in Australia]] (or New Zealand) and a { { orthodoxyinaustralasiasmall } } tag (w/o spaces, of course) in the pages will help keep things orderly. Ideally with these articles, they would also be added to the expanding list on the Orthodoxy in Australasia frontpage. — ''[[User:Pistevo|Pι]]''[[Special:Listusers/sysop|s]]'''[[User talkUsertalk:Pistevo|τ]]'''[[Special:Contributions/Pistevo|é]]''[[User:Pistevo|vο]]'', at 10:52, May 25, 2006 (CDT)::== English Usage ==Additionally - by memory, there are five English-language parishes in Australia in the Antiochian jurisdiction alone - St Barnabas (Gold Coast), Good Shepherd, 40 Holy Martyrs (Vic), St Anthony the Great (Perth) and, of course, Sts Michael and Gabriel (Syd); plus two in ROCOR and one or two in the Serbian diocese (Vic), and the Moscow Patriarchate's ones. — ''[[User:Pistevo|Pι]]''[[Special:Listusers/sysop|s]]'''[[User talkUsertalk:Pistevo|τ]]'''[[Special:Contributions/Pistevo|é]]''[[User:Pistevo|vο]]'', at 10:59, May 25, 2006 (CDT) :I was taking the position of distinguishing between firstly fully English-speaking as opposed to bi-lingual including English, and secondly parish as opposed to mission or monastery.  :In the Antiochian archdiocese, Fr Ted in Perth WA has retired because of age and ill-health and there is no replacement for him in sight. 40 Holy Martyrs Mirboo North Vic, is a mission which is a long way from becoming a self-supporting parish.  :In the Moscow Patriarchate in Australia, at Mayfield West Fr Alexander only chants 3 litanies in English and all the rest is in Slavonic. At Blacktown Fr Vladimir uses no English at all. In Melbourne I am informed Slavonic only is used.  :In the Serbian Dioceses in Australia, Fr Patrick from Ballarat serves in English, but does not lead a parish. I do not know of any other English as a first language (EFL) speaking priest serving an English speaking parish in that jurisdiction.  :In ROCOR there are a number of EFL priests and deacons. Hieromonk Benjamin in SA does not lead a parish. He is the only monk at his monastery, and then only part-time. Gosford is bi-lingual and is not a parish yet though it is heading in the right direction. None of the Sydney parishes are English-speaking. The monastery in Tasmania is English-speaking Western rite, but is not a parish.  :The Greek Orthodox Archdiocese uses English on a rotating basis at one parish each week, but that has been authoritatively stated to be a token gesture only, to prevent people saying GOA never uses the language of the people.  :As at the beginning of 2006, I understand there were only 3 fully English speaking [[parish]]es in Australia. They were Saint Barnabas Gold Coast Qld, Ss Michael & Gabriel West Ryde NSW, and Good Shepherd Canterbury Vic. All are in the Antiochian jurisdiction. All are a bit tenuous.  :Regrettably, at this stage, there is resistence in all the jurisdictions to the full use of English in parishes.  :The situation with English usage is a lot worse than the window dressing has indicated in the recent past.  :Matters are a lot different in New Zealand, particularly because of Fr Jack there.  :Would be most happy if anyone can up the numbers in Australia with concrete specifics. :chrisg 2006-05-26-0942 EAST